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Lolly February 18, 2013 at 8:22 AM

I found Kaleo’s blog a few weeks ago. I’m a middle-aged woman with out-of-whack hormones, overweight and verging on obese, always tired. I’ve been keeping track of calories for a couple of years, never going over 1500 calories and usually around 1200 per day. I just get bigger and feel worse. Tried interval training…gained 20 pounds. What Amber had to say about starvation made sense but it was very hard to take that step of eating more…the last thing I need is to try the next new fad and gain more weight and feel worse than I already do. Well, I took the step out of desperation. I upped my calories to 2000-2500 depending on the day and activity level. I committed to hiking four days a week and lift weights 2 days. Guess what! I did not gain weight. I’m absolutely shocked. I’ve lost some weight…not sure how much…but I’ve gone down one pants size. My menstrual cycle this month was not painful and was much easier to deal with. The best thing is that I actually have the energy to exercise and want to do it because it feels good, not because I have to which is a huge change for me. So that’s my anecdotal evidence that she is right. I know I’ve only been doing this for a few weeks but, as I had immediate positive results, I’m keeping on with it. I love the feeling of being well-nourished which, frankly, I’ve never had eating nutrient-dense food because, apparently, I wasn’t eating enough of them. So, thank you Amber! You’re my hero right now.

Kristen February 18, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Well, being one who is traveling the road back to health from the perspective of extreme adrenal fatigue (understatement), I contend that starvation induces adrenal fatigue. It doesn’t merely mimic the symptoms- the two are one in the same. Stress on the body is stress. Period. Also, the adrenals are intricately connected to digestion at every point, including buoying the body when calories are restricted. The adrenals kick in to tell the liver to release glycogen stores so that one can remain alive (by keeping the blood sugar up far enough to be compatible with life) and it releases steroids that give the energy to function and to release the fat from our cells in the absence of energy-giving calories and glycogen stores (which get used up eventually). The adrenals are all about keeping us in balance and alive, dealing with the stress that is all around us, and often in us, every day, all day long- and we very often ask more of them than they can handle, causing what I believe to be AF in most people living in fast-paced cultures. If you’ve ever been to the point of having your adrenals nearly collapsing altogether, you would realize how stressful everyday life is (when there is no cushioning mechanism left to buffer the onslaught it becomes apparent just how much our adrenals go to bat for us all day long)- the visual stimulation of driving down the road on the body, the sounds of plates clanking together during dinner, the physical exertion of carrying a load of laundry to or from the washer, the “trauma” of a lovely massage that would normally be a wonderful thing. The adrenals are at work in every one of those situations (and, of course, many more- pretty much everything you do in life requires the adrenals to compensate to one degree or another). I know for me, when I don’t eat enough in a day, I pay for it that evening in the form of having my AF symptoms return that I haven’t seen for a while (in other words, it taxes my adrenals to the point that my body reverts back to a lower level of functioning again even though I’ve done the work to heal past that point overall).
 
So, as I read this article I believe it is not adrenal fatigue OR starvation. I believe it is adrenal fatigue because of starvation (and probably a host of other stressors that haven’t been identified or given recognition).

That is my two-cents worth on this subject

If you're inactive, you probably don't need much in the way of carbs. But humans aren't metabolically normal unless they're active on a regular basis. So the healthy solution isn't to go low-carb, it's to increase activity level to the point where you need the carbs.

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Flugan sitter på min profil-till höger. Jag har inte satt dit den där  :shock:
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Grejen som bägge kommentarerna fokuserar på är att genom att äta mer så upplever de att de får energi till att träna och dessutom upplever en glädje att göra det. Istället för att röra sig mer och äta mindre så ska man äta mer för kunna röra sig mer och därigenom öka sin förbränning.

Jo, det låter ju jättebra. Men som flera av oss märkt så börjar vi inte springa runt som hamstrar om vi äter mera. Vi blir bara tjockare. Jag vet inte varför det skiljer så mycket mellan individer, det är bara att konstatera att det gör det.

Jag hängde i tillräckligt länge för att gå upp 80 kg. Räcker det?  :tongue:

:lmao: :clapping:

konstigt man måste göra allting själv..

Näe, inte direkt. Jag tog mig ju knappt ur sängen.

Nu förenklade jag lite när jag sa att jag åt mera och gick upp så mycket. Det börjarde inte så och jag hade också ett antal perioder då jag försökte hålla igen men inte orkade då det inte gav resultat det heller. Man kan kanske säga att det slutade så. Däremot kan jag klart säga att underätning inte är mitt problem idag. Verkar knäppt att äta ännu mer när man redan tenderar att äta för mycket. D.v.s. det finns inte en smörja som passar alla.

Jag trasslar in mig hela tiden här, men vad jag menar är bara att jag tror svårighet att gå ner beror på var man kommer ifrån och vad man har för fysiska (och kanske andra) problem, så jag tror inte det finns någon modell, förutom ren svält, som funkar på alla.

Hm. Det skulle alltså inte hjälpa att äta mer kalium? Varför då?

Ja eller att man inte tar upp det så lätt. Hu, kalium skulle jag inte trixa med utan läkarkontakt.